Aogan Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Sorry for all the noob questions guys and girls. I've searched the forum here for the above and come up fruitless. Ditto with my googling. Does Colin dipper have a website or a catalogue, does he have a range of instruments that he makes, similar to Suttner? Or is everything he makes a one-off to-order?
PeterT Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Does Colin dipper have a website or a catalogue, does he have a range of instruments that he makes, similar to Suttner? Or is everything he makes a one-off to-order? Hi Aogan, To answer your query, no Colin does not have a website, nor catalogue as such. He views most concertina orders as "one-off", although he has produced the "Clare" and "Cotswold" models in the past. I have his contact details (including email) should you need them. Colin favours a call to discuss requirements, which should not be a problem as I'm certain that you'll know exactly what you require. Regards, Peter.
ben Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) Colin and Rosalie Dipper may be reached at: West End House High Str. Heytesbury Warminster BA12 OEA England. The phone number (phoning from North America) is 011-44-1985-840516. (Contact info. furnished by C.net) Edited November 14, 2007 by Ben Otto
chainyanker Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/Extremely-Rare-Dipper-...1QQcmdZViewItem this dipper just came up 4 sale
david_boveri Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) you don't order a dipper. you just wish for it. concentrate... really hard. keep that focus for 3 to 5 years. if you forget about it for half a second, you have to start over. then, after 3 to 5 years, several thousand dollars will disappear out of your bank account and a concertina will show up at your front door. Edited November 9, 2007 by david_boveri
Fred Smitherley Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 Of the ten best recent concertinas I have seen the top three would be Dippers, head and shoulders above the rest. The next seven would all be Suttners. The other Dippers I have seen were beautiful but unremarkable when played with your eyes shut. I don't know if you can ask or pay for one of the good ones or they just happen. Fred
Daniel Hersh Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 Address and phone number are here on Chris Timson's Concertina FAQ. Does Colin dipper have a website or a catalogue, does he have a range of instruments that he makes, similar to Suttner? Or is everything he makes a one-off to-order? Hi Aogan, To answer your query, no Colin does not have a website, nor catalogue as such. He views most concertina orders as "one-off", although he has produced the "Clare" and "Cotswold" models in the past. I have his contact details (including email) should you need them. Colin favours a call to discuss requirements, which should not be a problem as I'm certain that you'll know exactly what you require. Regards, Peter.
Chris Timson Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 (edited) <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Extremely-Rare-Dipper-...1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/Extremely-Rare-Dipper-...1QQcmdZViewItem</a>this dipper just came up 4 sale As a Dipper C/G baritone owner I'm not tempted (no, really!). Nevertheless, phew-y ... Chris Edited to add PS - Colin has told me that he keeps clear of the Net because he reckons he could spend an awful lot of time on it, which would get in the way of making concertinas. To which I can only add:amen. Edited November 9, 2007 by Chris Timson
hjcjones Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 The Cocobolo/Rosewood Dipper concertina belongs to HC Jones' concertina. (Jones' photo) Mine is the standard "Cotswold" model which Chris mentioned above. I just took what was available at the time - I've told the story of how I came by it on other threads so I won't repeat it, as it only causes pain to those still on the waiting list. To reply to Fred Smitherley's comments, I can only disagree - nearly all the the Dippers I've played have been a delight to the ear and the eye, and a pleasure to play. The only exception was one of his early instruments which had been played hard for morris for 30 years; mind you, it was still a good instrument, just not quite in the top drawer. It still went for a healthy price on ebay, though. I'd be tempted by the baritone that's just come on ebay, but I'm not sure I can cope with the grief I'd get from both my wife and my bank manager, so I won't be bidding
PeterT Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 I'd be tempted by the baritone that's just come on ebay, but I'm not sure I can cope with the grief I'd get from both my wife and my bank manager, so I won't be bidding You could always change your bank manager, Howard. Of course, if you were to sell your Crabb, it would probably fund the purchase of the Dipper. Regards, Peter.
Paul Read Posted November 12, 2007 Posted November 12, 2007 Of the ten best recent concertinas I have seen the top three would be Dippers, head and shoulders above the rest. The next seven would all be Suttners. The other Dippers I have seen were beautiful but unremarkable when played with your eyes shut. I don't know if you can ask or pay for one of the good ones or they just happen. Fred Have you never seen a Dickenson Wheatstone Fred? Or don't you rate them?
Fred Smitherley Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 Of the ten best recent concertinas I have seen the top three would be Dippers, head and shoulders above the rest. The next seven would all be Suttners. The other Dippers I have seen were beautiful but unremarkable when played with your eyes shut. I don't know if you can ask or pay for one of the good ones or they just happen. Fred Have you never seen a Dickenson Wheatstone Fred? Or don't you rate them? I have had the pleasure once. The remark above was about recent concertinas. The best overall instrument I have ever seen was a Dipper, the second was a John Crabb, the third a Jeffries. I might have played 70 or 80 good instruments. This is because I used to approach people and ask to try them, and offer them a go on my Dipper. Not the one at the top of both lists unfortunately. I came across a Dickenson made in the 80s some time ago and thought it was about as good as a Wheatstone made in the 50s. It was from his cheaper range so fair enough. I do wonder if he makes very many? You occasionally see someone here annoucing the arrival of a new Dipper, but I have never seen anyone saying their new Dickenson has arrived. Does anyone have a new Dickenson? I can understand nobody is complaining publicly about the delay because you don't want to take the chance of making it longer if the maker takes exception. Fred
hjcjones Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 [Of course, if you were to sell your Crabb, it would probably fund the purchase of the Dipper. Regards, Peter. Unfortunately, the sale of the Crabb is supposed to fund the purchase of my current Dipper, otherwise...
ben Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Fred, I spoke to Steve Dickenson approximately two weeks ago. He advised me that he makes about 12 (twelve) concertinas per year and that his waiting list currently is 5 (five) years. He will be charging me approximately 5,200 pounds for my concertina. I wonder if this price excludes VAT etc. He laments that his concertinas are each hand made, hand produced and very time consuming. Edited November 14, 2007 by Ben Otto
PeterT Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 He will be charging me approximately 5,200 pounds for my concertina. I wonder if this price excludes VAT etc. Hi Ben, According to Steve's pricelist, prices are "ex works"; VAT, packing and delivery all additional. Regards, Peter.
SteveS Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 All Does anyone have any pictures of Steve's and Colin's concertinas? Steve
PeterT Posted November 13, 2007 Posted November 13, 2007 All Does anyone have any pictures of Steve's and Colin's concertinas? Steve Hi Steve, See Ben's posting early in this thread for some Dippers. Regards, Peter.
david_boveri Posted November 14, 2007 Posted November 14, 2007 Of the ten best recent concertinas I have seen the top three would be Dippers, head and shoulders above the rest. The next seven would all be Suttners. The other Dippers I have seen were beautiful but unremarkable when played with your eyes shut. I don't know if you can ask or pay for one of the good ones or they just happen. Fred Have you never seen a Dickenson Wheatstone Fred? Or don't you rate them? I have had the pleasure once. The remark above was about recent concertinas. The best overall instrument I have ever seen was a Dipper, the second was a John Crabb, the third a Jeffries. I might have played 70 or 80 good instruments. This is because I used to approach people and ask to try them, and offer them a go on my Dipper. Not the one at the top of both lists unfortunately. I came across a Dickenson made in the 80s some time ago and thought it was about as good as a Wheatstone made in the 50s. It was from his cheaper range so fair enough. I do wonder if he makes very many? You occasionally see someone here annoucing the arrival of a new Dipper, but I have never seen anyone saying their new Dickenson has arrived. Does anyone have a new Dickenson? I can understand nobody is complaining publicly about the delay because you don't want to take the chance of making it longer if the maker takes exception. Fred have you played any carrolls?
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